Ben Goertzel, CEO of SingularityNET, on the Exciting AI-Crypto Intersection, AI Launched on Decentralized Infra, and AI as New Species Smarter Than Humans | Ep. 364

Crypto is now a store of value and a financial speculation instrument, but there is no “kick-ass mainstream use case that we want.” The next evolution of AI could become that use case, said Goertzel.

Hence, the team is looking into ways to launch the next AI evolution on the ASI infrastructure.

Certain useful elements will be launched sooner while the team keeps on working towards this major goal.

Putting LLMs and knowledge graphs together on a decentralized platform can be a toolset that could get a lot of traction with mainstream Web2 and Web3 AI developers.

But this also lays the groundwork for the next stage, Goertzel added. “We’re starting with decentralized LLM plus knowledge graph, then we’ll put more and more AI into the knowledge graph part until that becomes the next level of AGI mind.”

The smarter AI that ASI can roll out on a crypto basis, the bigger the crypto ecosystem will grow. This will then increase token value and bring in more money to put even smarter AI on the crypto basis.

Machines Will Be Smarter Than Humans

The relation of AI and blockchain goes both ways, Goertzel remarked.

AI has many ways to help blockchains do their thing. And cybersecurity is going to be a growing area in this respect.

Utilizing AI can make a super-fast, scalable, and cheap consensus mechanism for decentralized social media or communication of AI agents, he said.

On the other hand, the way blockchain can help AI is even more foundational.

It’s “basically the only existing solution” for not having a few large, powerful parties – primarily big governments and corporations – own and control all the AI in the world, which is running every software and hardware application on the planet.

This is important economically now and may become massively relevant as we move to AGI and superintelligence, Goertzel remarked.

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Therefore, he continued, the blockchain becomes a way for the pieces of the servers that are underlying the world’s AI to be owned by various parties that can coordinate without a central controller.

And this brings us to the future of AGI, the veteran said, adding: “I think we are on a near-inevitable path to having machines much smarter than human beings.”

General intelligence is leaps of imagination beyond the current AI. This will effectively be a new species, he opined.

There are many routes to get to AGI, and it may take three or ten years to get there. How long exactly will depend on focus of money and expert human attention on the problem, Goertzel concluded.

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That’s not all.

In this interview, Goertzel also discussed:

  • AI supplanting DeFi as the main engine of economic growth within the crypto world;
  • multiple stages in the emergence of AI;
  • merging Ocean Protocol, Fetch.ai, and SingularityNET into the Artificial Superintelligence Alliance;
  • the alliance working full-force with brilliant people and a decent amount of funding on a variety of ground-breaking interrelated components to make the next big thing in AI;
  • conquering tech giants with smarter technology – the team already has ‘the seeds for defeating the big tech’;
  • the shortest path to artificial general intelligence (AGI).

You can watch the full episode here.

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About Ben Goertzel

Dr. Ben Goertzel leads the SingularityNET Foundation, the enterprise AI firm TrueAGI, the OpenCog Foundation, and the AGI Society.

Additionally, he is the facilitator of the Artificial General Intelligence conference, which has been held annually for over fifteen years.

Goertzel is a highly influential figure in the fields of artificial intelligence, robotics, and computational finance.

Born in 1966, he earned a Ph.D. in Mathematics from Temple University, USA, dedicating his career to both the theoretical and practical applications of AI.

Goertzel helped popularize the term “artificial general intelligence” and has been a strong advocate for moving the field of AGI.

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